Patch's Poll: Does America Need More Gun Control?

In the wake of the movie theater massacre in Colorado which left 12 people dead, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has called on President Barack Obama and presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney to push for stricter gun laws.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is calling on President Obama and presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney to propose stricter gun control laws following last week's which left 12 people dead and 59 wounded in Colorado, The Huffington Post reports

“This really is an enormous problem for the country, and it's up to these two presidential candidates," Bloomberg said, according to the Huffington Post. "They want to lead this country, and they've said things before that they're in favor of banning things like assault weapons. Where are they now and why don't they stand up? And if they want our votes, they better.”    

According to The Huffington Post, the alleged Colorado shooter, James Holmes, acquired his arsenal of weapons, ammunition and body armor over several months from the Internet and brick-and-mortar stores alike. His purchases did not raise any red flags.   

Proponents of gun rights, however, argue that a vast majority of gun owners are law-abiding citizens and that criminals who commit these kinds of massacres aren't obeying laws already in place, so wouldn't obey stricter ones either. 

Dudley Brown, executive director of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, commented on Holmes' 6,000 rounds of ammunition for an assault rifle.

"If I only had 6,000 rounds for my AR-15s, I'd literally feel naked," Brown said, according to The Huffington Post. Holmes' arsenal included "two handguns, a shotgun and a rifle. That's the average male in Colorado."

What do you think? Should the U.S. adopt stricter gun laws? Take our poll and share your thoughts in the comments.

Daria Novak July 25, 2012 at 01:42 PM
RB - Last year, when I was taking my then 14-year-old son to a farm to see his grandfather I called the state police in the various states through which we would be traveling. I did so because CCDL (CT Citizens Defense League), a pro-second amendment group here, warned me it may be illegal to carry a child's toy BB gun. At first I thought they were joking. My dad was going to shoot at soda cans with my son. At Christmas I had purchased a Daisy BB gun at WalMart for my son. So, following their advice, as a precaution, I made phone calls. I stated I wanted to make sure we could carry it, unloaded, in the car. I found out it was illegal to travel with the BB gun in the car in some states, although no license is required to use this older child's toy. It shocked me!
DonnaR July 25, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Why is the Second Amendment is important to Freedom. Without the right to bare arms, we cannot defend ourselves or our freedoms. Excerpts from The Volunteer Soldier of America Written by General John A Logan, Copyright 1887 Recounting of British General John Burgoyne’s defeat at Bemis Heights on the Hudson in 1777 Characteristics of the Volunteer Soldier But away off in the wilds of America a soldier had been found totally different from any that had ever walked a battlefield. Upon one day he was a civilian quietly following the plow; upon the next he became a soldier, knowing no fear and carrying a whole destroying battery in his trusty rifle. He moved with the discipline of the educated soldier, but he fought with the desperation of a lion at bay. He followed the commands of his superiors when they led to victory, but in his military lexicon there was no such word a fail. …. All along the line of the perilous march the American Citizen-soldiers swarmed from their cabins to meet the invader. Many fell into the ranks and fought until victory was assured.
Steve Adams July 25, 2012 at 03:30 PM
RB, you actually hold an "open carry" permit because CT is an "open carry" state. There is no requirement your firearm be concealed. CT permits don't even have the word "concealed" on it. CT's Board of Firearms Examiners has confirmed that open carry is legal in CT. Listen to this snippet from one of their hearings in 2011 when you have a moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9geV7WMxPw As far as traveling through Mass. to VT, you need only ensure the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk, or if your vehicle has no trunk, that the unloaded firearm is in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console compartment.
Lou July 25, 2012 at 03:57 PM
You do. Here in CT you need to pass a written test, shoot, have background checks done by local and state police.....isn't that enough?
George Kenyon July 25, 2012 at 04:09 PM
There is currently a bill in DC that would allow for a permit holder form his home state to carry in all states with a carry permit system and at this time would include most places except for Chicago (where only criminals can have guns and the crime rate shows it).
George Kenyon July 25, 2012 at 04:13 PM
In Connecticut, if you possess a valid permit to carry pistols and revolvers you can literally carry 15 handguns on your persons. Yet, per state law, if that same person has a BB gun in their possession they are commiting a felony but somehow, some people want these "lawmakers" to go and draft more laws using arbitrary concepts as "assault rifles and high capacity magazines". In a side note CCDL is a fantastic group to belong to. Scott and the rest of the board have assembled a great group of people and resources and membership is also free. The annual family picnic is August 19th for those interested in meeting and learning more . http://www.ccdl.us/aboutus/events/218-4th-annual-family-picnic
George Kenyon July 25, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Actually, an assault rifle is classified as a rifle with 2 or more of the following . (A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following: i. a folding or telescopic stock; ii. a pistol grip; iii. a bayonet mount; iv. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and v. a grenade launcher. With the exception of the grenade launcher none of these components make the rifle any more lethal. Its an arbitrary term. For arguments sake you can make a ruger 10/22 plinking rifle, an assault weapon by merely changing the stock. Nothing "military grade" about it.
Steve Adams July 25, 2012 at 04:21 PM
The charges were dropped because the elements of the crime of "breach of peace" are not met merely by exposing a firearm worn by a holder of a CT permit. This is because firearms need no be concealed. As for answering your door while wearing a firearm openly, that is perfectly legal.
George Kenyon July 25, 2012 at 04:27 PM
Fran, how often are these automatic weapons used? how about these "assault rifles"??? Lets not count the thousands of Illegal rifles arbitrarily classified as assault weapons that Eric Holder purposely put into the hands of violent criminals. You're more likely to be hit by a car then shot with either one. and a great majority of gun violence is cause by criminals with illegal handguns. Recent example is the Homicide at Burger King on whalley ave, the murder weapon. a .38 caliber revolver. capacity, 5-6 rounds in the hands of someone illegally. Multiple laws didn't prevent another criminal from killing someone (also against the law).
George Kenyon July 25, 2012 at 04:35 PM
What Steve say's is correct, the element required to substantiate a breach of peace charge is the actor has to have the intent to cause alarm, Legally carrying a firearm in plain view does not hold up to that. Over the last few years the courts have held this and police depts have been made better aware of the what is required to make and arrest. Of course our state legislature has refused to codify the BOFE declatory ruling, but it is still binding. Page 2 of the pamphlet has a lot of information. http://www.ccdl.us/attachments/099_CCDL%20Carry%20Brochure%20v2b.pdf
Fran M. July 25, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Yup, that's the argument gun advocates toted immediately after the shootings at Va Tech..."if we were allowed to carry weapons, we could have stopped this!" Absurd. Wonderful, let's have an "ok corral" shootout between a deranged moron intent on killing people, and a "well-trained, legally armed" person (because, of course, the well-trained guy can shoot through body armor, and is obviously wearing his own armor on a night at the movies). What happens when the police do show up? Of course, the "well-trained" guy gets shot because police see him with a gun, aiming at another person. How the heck are police to tell the difference? (hope the deranged guy always paints his hair red and is yelling "I'm the Joker"?)
George Kenyon July 25, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Fran with al due respect, you have the right to sit there and be a helpless victim. Some of us refuse to be. P.S. there was no body armor involved at VA tech. Do you think the teacher at VA tech if armed wouldn't have been able to defend himself? Yet he was riddled with bullets holding a door shut while he was shot through it. Maybe body armor is an issue, maybe not. If you're shot with soft armor you're not going to stand there, you will still get repelled. Ask the people of Chicago how well there gun control has worked, or Washington DC. The only people who are armed are the criminals. Then again, we all how much they love defenseless victims.
Lou July 26, 2012 at 01:47 AM
My next door neighbor wants to ban all guns. Their house is not armed. Out of respect for their opinion I promise not to use my guns to protect them!
Daria Novak July 26, 2012 at 03:01 AM
George I know Scott and belong to CCDL. The groups does a great deal of good here in CT in the legislature and with the public. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in finding out more about the subject from well-informed, law-abiding individuals.
Vindaloo July 26, 2012 at 12:30 PM
"if that same person has a BB gun in their possession they are commiting a felony"....George, I don't know much about gun laws, but are you saying it's illegal to own a bb gun in ct?........I own a rifle and I bought a bb gun for my son years ago (not at Walmart) and Lou, what a nasty thing to say about your neighbor. "My next door neighbor wants to ban all guns. Their house is not armed. Out of respect for their opinion I promise not to use my guns to protect them!" I saw a similar quote passed around by somene on Facebook. Sure, let everyone know your neighbor is unprotected and refuse to help him if he needs it just because he doesn't agree with you. That's so American, and neighborly of you. As far as gun control.....it's too late. I don't like our dependence on firearmes and the interpretation of the right to bear arms, but I also believe that the theater shooter would not have been red flagged because he had no questionable background. Perhaps if someone in the crowd had a gun they could have stopped him, or maybe made things worse. I wish the interpretation of our 2nd amendment didn't lead us in this direction.
Lou July 26, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Catherine - Exactly, it was a Facebook sign going around meant to bring some humor to the comments here. Also, are you trying to tell me that someone trying to take away my rights as a citizen is acting like a true American? Come on now. Should we ban spoons and forks because they could lead to obesity and in some cases death? Oh wait, lets implement more laws to put Americans in danger by leaving them unprotected. Do you believe that criminals will obey gun control laws? Gun control just hurts the law abiding citizens and gives criminals an advantage.
Vindaloo July 26, 2012 at 01:41 PM
Lou,...What a complete and total misunderstanding and exaggeration of my comment and where do I say that I am for gun control? Read it again.
Norm Brody July 26, 2012 at 02:04 PM
Driving between Phoenix and Tucson, I always stop at a diner in the town of Florence. About half the folks in that diner are wearing visible sidearms. I feel perfectly safe. It's right across the street from the county prison souvenir and gift shop. Can't miss it!!
George Kenyon July 26, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Catherine- No possession in the context of my post is in regards to carrying on ones person or in a vehicle or otherwise outside of someones home. My example was that state says i am permited to carry firearms, but a bb gun on my belt makes me a felon. But these are the laws they pass in Hartford. The same goes for tasers, stun guns and other electronic defense weapons. Carrying or possession is illegal and a felony. Owning them and keeping them in your home or place of business is not illegal.
cirrus July 26, 2012 at 09:16 PM
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Can you show me the 'well regulated militia' the founding fathers were referring to in your present day culture? What are your thoughts relating to the important phrase 'well regulated militia"?
Sam Samuels August 01, 2012 at 02:39 AM
Brian, you do have to take a course and pass a test in order to show that you understand the weapon and how to safely and legally store it, that is if you intend to carry it. If you want to carry it (only concealed), you have to apply for a license in your home town, then apply to the State. If you check out OK, you will be issued a permit with your photo on it, yup, just like a drivers license. However, if you don't want to carry it, and just take it home and keep it there, then you don't need a permit. You will have a waiting period to deal with while they do a background check on you though.
Sam Samuels August 01, 2012 at 02:41 AM
You can always apply for your FFL (Federal Firearms License). Good luck with that though, unless you intend to trade or sell firearms and have a legitimate business set up.
George Kenyon August 01, 2012 at 02:58 AM
@ Sam Samuels, a carry permit in connecticut does.not require a handgun be concealed. Open carry in Connecticut is not illegal. Also, there is no waiting period to purchase a.handun in Connecticut. You cannot buy a handgun without carry permit or eligibilty certificate (which has always been a waste to get) you need to do pretty much the same thing to obtain as a permit to carry.
Sam Samuels August 01, 2012 at 03:03 AM
Just be careful Steve, if you carry it out in the open, the Police can get you for "disturbing the peace" by causing people to panic when they see you.
Sam Samuels August 01, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Good luck with "open carry" in Clinton.
Sam Samuels August 01, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Daria, you have my vote!
Abe Washington August 01, 2012 at 05:58 AM
Open carry is Breach of Peace. Must be concealed in Connecticut unless law enforcement.
George Kenyon August 01, 2012 at 12:12 PM
@ Abe- Open carry (of a legally possessed firearm) is not Breach of Peace in and of it self, The courts as well as the Board of Firearms Examiners have all ruled on this. Connecticut has no laws requiring concealment. Merely carrying a firearm openly actually violates no state laws. A car horn can alarm someone too but unless used to annoy somone, its not illegal. Below is some further reference on clarification of "open" carry". http://www.ccdl.us/attachments/099_CCDL%20Carry%20Brochure%20v2b.pdf
Dave krocket August 01, 2012 at 12:49 PM
George is correct: Is there any CT General Statute gun law prescribing that firearms must be carried concealed? The answer is no. The law does not address this issue. But, with limited exceptions, it is illegal to carry a handgun, whether concealed or openly, without a permit, except in one's home or place of business (CGS § 29-35(a) Therefore everyone in Madison who has a gun permit should holster up and walk around town with their gun exposed to make the criminal element think twice.
Dave krocket August 01, 2012 at 01:01 PM
To target practice, you don't even have to be at least 500 feet away from another person, domestic animal or home like most people think. That's a hunting requirement. So I guess it is legal to sit on your back deck with some of your buddies with guns and blast off some rounds at a tin can in your yard even with homes and other neighbors right next to you, as long as you are pointing the gun away from them. Right George?


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