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State Rules Maturo Can't Receive Disability Pension

He has appealed, but if he loses he might have to pay back pension payments he received while he was mayor from 1997 to 2007.

Mayor Joseph Maturo might be in hot water over continuing to take his Fire Department disability pension while he was mayor, the same issue that convinced his Republican ally .

The New Haven Register reported that the Municipal Employees Retirement System (MERS) agency has denied Maturo’s request to continue to take his disability pension while he is serving as mayor and has raised the possibility that Maturo might have to pay back over $310,000 he received while he was mayor for 10 years from 1997 to 2007.

Both Maturo and McKay were East Haven firefighters and both retired on disabilities. In an interview with East Haven Patch in December, McKay said he decided not to run for town clerk because that job is paid for more than 20 hours a week and that means he would have to give up his $1,500 a month disability pension.

McKay said he was concerned that if he discontinued his pension, the MERS would not let him reinstate it again in the future.

The Register reported the reason the MERS gave for denying Maturo’s pension is that the mayor’s job is paid for more than 20 hours a week.

The MERS stopped his payments when Maturo was re-elected in November, which the mayor appealed and lost. He has appealed the denial to the State Employees Retirement Commission.

However, if he loses, it might mean he would have to pay back the disability payments he received while he was mayor from 1997 to 2007.

Maturo has also come under criticism from political opponents who have questioned why he receives disability payments while he is able to go jogging and play golf.

Doreen Boudreau Hausler May 05, 2012 at 01:01 PM
I can see your points, Norm. However, I don't think that any truly dedicated person, who is committed to serving this, or any community, should be swayed by silly comment threads on this or any other site. This type of forum isn't brand new. And, anyone serving in public office has to know that they are going to be living in a fishbowl, to an extent. Yes, they deserve privacy during running their private lives. But, the actions involved with their job will most certainly draw scrutiny. Although this medium may be "newer", citizens have always (as they should have) held politicians accountable. A person of character, with integrity... other positive attributes.. should never be discouraged from holding their head up high, and going into public service. It is a good town. It deserves good leadership. Right now, many of us feel that we're not getting that. It's important that we all hear each other's viewpoints. I would hope that people might do that more respectfully.
Norm Brody May 05, 2012 at 01:31 PM
I agree. Sounds like we are on the same page.
Lise Cavallaro May 05, 2012 at 03:34 PM
10. The immaturity in some of these posts are staggering.
David Shultis May 05, 2012 at 06:55 PM
These men, I think, are big boys. They can handle some criticism. If they can't then they should not dish anything out. I am serious when I say it is comical. As is the current state of our town, but constant news coverage of the bad that goes on here is not what this town needs no matter which political party is in office. The pension process will play out and the mayor will probably have to pay back the money that was paid out incorrectly. Sorry but this has come down to a witch hunt. Started on election day.... Everyone has their skeletons so I hope for all the posters have theirs neatly wrapped up??
Patrick Madley May 05, 2012 at 07:48 PM
There are limits as to how much you can make when on disability. One of the restrictions is working 19 hours or less, which, according to the charter the mayor of EH cannot do. It is a full time position according to the charter. As for what he got during his last ten years in office, he should have to pay back all of it because it is well known, the restriction, about getting disability. Therefore, he shoul have spoken up to stop it. At least pay back 1/4 of what he received.
Lou May 05, 2012 at 08:09 PM
The citizens of this town elected him so I guess they were ok with his prior tenure as mayor collecting disability. My guess is that if citizens oh East Haven as a while were not ok with this he would have not been re-elected!
CitizenVoice May 05, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I still don't understand the nature of the mayor's disability. I've seen him quite a few times and he has never looked disabled to me. If its the old "back injury" story, I can sympathize, sort of. I have a miserably painful, chronic low-back condition, as do about 6/10 people I know. However, none of us are on disability. I see both his arms and both his legs are working just fine, so it can't be that. Could he possibly suffer from some sort of mental or psychological debilitation? That would be harder to notice... unless, of course, he opens his mouth. So, does anyone really know what is $310,000 worth of wrong with him? I know a few people who suffer with some serious movement-inhibiting conditions and injuries but forego getting on disability for the sake of their dignity. When I think of them toughing out their work days and being too exhausted from the effort to enjoy any afterwork recreation, even with their own children, it makes me look at some like Maturo with a very critical eye.
Ann Della Camera May 05, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Don, thanks for saying it like it is. The DTC will push ,lie, make things look worst then they are. I have grown so sick of the whiners and hate on this site, I rarely comment anymore. All it is a losing party crying and being hateful. They forget however that most of this started with them, however the puppet master Rocco, wants us to believe other wise.
Ann Della Camera May 05, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Doreen, are you sure about this statement, he did take a vacation after a short time in office, of course you would not want to blame the mess left behind and the blame being put on him and the stress of wanting to please all in the town. The name calling, and bitterness from the Dems losing. The former mayor took a few vacations also, but well she was the DTC's puppet. I guess you do not work, and have time to follow the mayor around. You seem to know when, where , what and how , about him. I hope you give him some men's room privacy. As to your comment about behind closed doors, I will not even dignify that with an answer to you.
Ann Della Camera May 05, 2012 at 10:39 PM
WTG Linda, you told them good. I so agree with you.
Ann Della Camera May 05, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Norm, you are right this is a good town with good caring people. However anyone wanting public office better buy a suit of armor now, because the vicious attacks are not going to end. This to me is sad. I don't think I ever saw so much hate as I have on here. I think if you ran St. Peter they would tear him about.
Ann Della Camera May 05, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Doreen, are you brave enough to run, any ghost hidden in your closet. If not, you seem to know so much than you should run next election. Just don't count on my vote.
Doreen Boudreau Hausler May 05, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Ann, when you "respond" to me, it would be nice if you'd understand that I am actually NOT a "Dem". Also, I live in the present. Thanks for being so concerned as to how I spend my personal time. Trust me. I'm not following our current mayor into the bathroom. Keep it classy, Ann.
Doreen Boudreau Hausler May 05, 2012 at 11:38 PM
No worries Ann. I have no interest in running for public office. I'm otherwise occupied, thankfully. I pay attention. You should, perhaps, as well. I believe that for those who are called, serving in public office can be a wonderful experience, and very rewarding. I respect those who do good works, while doing so. I do however expect high integrity and accountability from those who take on these positions. Please don't worry about any ghosts in my closet. I have nothing to be embarrassed about. I know who I am. And, I know what I'm about. Folks who know me, know my family and how we spend our time. This is most certainly not about me, or any private citizen. I will not stop being vocal about my lack of respect or faith in our current administration. Ann you, and anyone else who likes to bully those of us who do speak out, should perhaps start considering why you're hearing from us these days. I was never vocal on the Patch, or elsewhere, previously. I am completely disillusioned and sit in dismay as to how anyone could defend the continuous poor choices in words and actions, coming out of town hall these days. I'll say it again Ann. Public servants are going to be scrutinized. This is nothing new. What's astounding is that you and/or some others, don't seem to have the same questions some of the rest of us do. I wonder why?
Angels Among Us May 06, 2012 at 01:14 AM
It is about time! He should pay back the money and they should also look at other public officials that have "double dipped". We could not get away with it, why should they?
Citizen, Please keep in mind that people with disabilites may not always look disabled on the surface such as our fellow residents with Epilepsy.
Bob Fawkes May 07, 2012 at 12:53 PM
11) Dig deep Feds. Dig deep into the bowels of East Haven politics. Lots to be found there. Lots of places in the budget where money "disappeared" over the years. http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/upload/2009/08/whitey%20tropiano.jpg Note how they squirm, claiming these "posts" would scare off potential candidates from running for office. Honest, upstanding citizens have no skeletons in their closets and thus are not precluded from running for public office. In fact, I encourage them to do so, all honest upstanding Republicans, Democrats and Independents.
Don Charles May 07, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Several of the people on this site have asked for the phony Jacobo to be suspended, Hoff is another who just keeps writing and writing. You should all understand that the comments back to them are fodder for their 15 minutes of HATEFUL fame. IGNORE them, don't comment back and they will go away. They love that people come back to them this is what they live for. When you have sleazes like this commenting they only look for the exposure and the continual back and forth is what they want. Try INGORING them both and you may also want to include Jacobo's clone Starfish girl another HATER.
Bob Fawkes May 07, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Skeletons in your closet, Don Cheech?
Bob Fawkes May 07, 2012 at 01:53 PM
12) The man blatantly attempted to seize control of the Police Commission (and thereby control of the Police Department) by eliminating political opponents who were instrumental in bringing about a Federal Investigation and indictments into Police criminal corruption.
Julie Weisberg (Editor) May 07, 2012 at 02:27 PM
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Bob Fawkes May 07, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Starfishgirl and others, Thank you for your defense of my commentary. Seems the feathers have been ruffled a bit and now there are calls for my banishment. I truly could care less what these pions think of me or my comments. I seek the truth and point it out to others. If that results in my banishment, so be it... No matter how hard some here try to defend them to the contrary, the longstanding criminally inbred lowlifes that have influenced East Haven politics for generations are falling by the wayside. Their progeny are largely addicted to the very drugs they peddle, and thus "don't measure up" in taking over "the business". These animals will be rooted out of every nook and cranny and sent packing; and the Town of East Haven will be a better place for all of the good hardworking people who make America great. God Bless America, God Bless East Haven....
Starfishgirl May 07, 2012 at 04:54 PM
I admit it. I hate cruelty, corruption, graft, abuse, violence, misogyny, privacy invasion, and torture.
Luigi (the original) May 07, 2012 at 05:45 PM
I too defend your right to comment Jacko. Regardless of the pompous and self righteousness attitude it conveys. YOUR perception of the truth, as seen through your obviously tainted glasses is just that, your perception, and as worthless as it is, is your prerogative to post.
Becki Pastor May 07, 2012 at 11:08 PM
What a way to legitimize your position on a topic by calling other posters feminine products. This is a prime example of why no one can intelligently debate anything on East Haven Patch. My hope for you Luigi is that you have not or will not complain about anyone making personal attacks in your direction. This sir is an uncalled for and nasty remark to level at anyone. I am not defending anyone's position in this thread personally, however I do object to the name calling and personal attacks. BTW this goes for ALL the personal attacks, name calling and derogatory language to belittle another poster. If you can't state your opinion without dragging out the old tried and true "you bet on the wrong horse" argument or without insulting others then your opinion is invalidated. Use intelligent discourse to state you opinion the cream rises to the top and you will have legitimate supporters also comment with you. Period.
Becki Pastor May 07, 2012 at 11:11 PM
I agree Norm. We don't all have to agree politically, morally or religiously but we should all agree to be respectful and adult in the postings on here. The back biting and insults and personal attacks are so disheartening. We live in a town with great potential if we could all just take the time to treat each other with respect. I would ask all of you to look in the mirror and ask before you post again, would I say in person the bullying and attacking things I say online? If the answer is no or a hesitant yes/maybe then STOP!!
Becki Pastor May 07, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Robert, he was not disabled due to epilepsy. It is my understanding he hurt his back whilst a firefighter.
Becki Pastor May 07, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Mr. Maturo and I rarely see eye to eye. That said, if he is truly disabled and in need of his pension and was notified of the rules of said pension prior to running and Mr. McKay knew of this information whilst deciding whether to run from Town Clerk and chose not to do so. I am confused as to why Mr. Maturo feels the rules should be different for him. As to whether or not Mr. Maturo would have to pay back the monies received during his previous administration, that is a real possiblility. He may also have to pay back the 4 years in between as the pension when terminated is very difficult to reinstate given the argument that being elected to office is grounds for termination due to ability to perform full time employment. Therefore Mr. Maturo may well have to pay back more than $ . My only disappointment is that he knew going in that if elected he would lose it and has now turned it into more "democratic vendetta" garble. It is what it is. He knew going into campaigning that it would happen and thought the rule would magically not apply to him if he complained loud enough. That's not how it works. And shame on the state and shame on the two previous Governors if these pensions were administered in such a shoddy manner if this rule has always been in effect and went on unfettered for all these years.
Becki Pastor May 07, 2012 at 11:26 PM
oops. Pay back in excess of $574,000 if they include the years in between administrations.

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