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LETTER: 'Our Roads Are In Awful Condition'

An East Haven resident argues East Haven has "the worst plowed roads of any of the shoreline towns." And urges town officials to spend the overtime needed to ensure they are properly maintained during and after storms.

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The following is an open letter to East Haven town officials originally shared on the East Haven Patch's Facebook page.

To the Editor:

I have a question for the Town of East Haven.

Our roads are in awful condition. We have the worst plowed roads of any of the shoreline towns that I have traveled on in the past few days.

We have had a short lull in the snowy weather. But instead of our plows out widening back up the streets and clearing the large piles of snow on the corners of intersections, our plow trucks are parked.

Someone please explain to me why this is the case.

I am all for saving tax dollars and not paying unnecessary overtime, but I feel in this case it is justified.

ALL of our town roads need to be passible if for no other reason than for emergency vehicles to get through.

I welcome all comments agreeing or disagreeing with my thoughts.

Something needs to be done now. We have more snow falling as I type this as well as possible storms on Tuesday and next Monday.

Jay Carr
Citizen X February 16, 2014 at 06:32 AM
It simply comes down to dollars and cents. It works like this. The police department calls the superintendent. The superintendent waits for the police to call back with another complaint of hazardous road conditions. The superintendent then calls the mayor who then makes the decision. A lot of things factor into he's decision. The time of the call in relation to the 8 am starting time for Public Works. The day. If it's sun at 9pm you can bet nobody gets called in until after midnight. Now in the mean time if there is a horrible accident because the initial call from the police was ignored is the town responsible? Well the mayors response to that question is "that's why we have lawyers". Kind of makes me feel like our safety is not as important as the bottom line.
Carl Perez February 16, 2014 at 06:36 AM
Bottom line money vs safety and this administration seems to me its all about money !! Last week schools were opened and not a plow to be found they were called in on regular time!! Safety for the students came in second. Last night the crew of FOUR trucks only were called in at 5 00pm and sent home early, it started snowing at 2 00pom !!!These workers do one helluva job when given the opportunity they ARE NOT THE BLAME, its the upper administration thats at fault !!!
Kristy Turcio Porter February 16, 2014 at 07:47 AM
The subcontractors haven't been paid by the town for the snow removal they have already done, therefore, they are not going to continue working for free.
cheryl February 16, 2014 at 09:17 AM
im going to piss ppl off i guess but i found the roads around my part of town done very well,,i live in foxon and rt 80 was great and so were the side streets where i live,,sry but i have no complaints this winter
Rosie February 16, 2014 at 09:25 AM
First of all, RT 80, as well as North High Street are STATE roads meaning they are done by the state. That is why they are in good condition. Many of the side roads are horrible. They are barely plowed one car wide, there is snow left in in intersections, which is now frozen. Last year for the blizzard was understandable. There is NO excuse for the poor conditions the roads were left for these few storms. Don't know what's going on at PW, but this is the worst I have seen it in years.
pasarela February 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM
I fully agree with the article. My street Guilford Court was plowed once and is in terrible condition. We have been doing all we can plowing our own street space. Smh
Rosie February 16, 2014 at 11:09 AM
Personally, since Pat retired, public works went downhill. Our parks and fields are horrible in the summer (especially the high school-embarrassing) and nothing gets done properly in the winter. Pat took pride in the way this town looked. No one does anymore...
Citizen X February 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM
I'll address a couple of these posts. 1. The town does not use subcontractors for snow removal. 2.Pat had nothing to do with snow removal except when he was in a truck plowing. I do agree that the parks and fields have become disgusting since he left. He absolutely took pride in the work he did as did the guys he had working under him. Sadly when he left all but one or two transferred back to the highway depth. 3.Don't blame the guys in the trucks. When they get called in there is already significant snow on the ground and that makes a difficult job impossible. They just cant catch up. When it stops snowing they are sent home before they even finish their routes. It generally takes about 10 hours once the last flake falls to clean the town. If it's 4 o'clock it doesn't matter what is done and what isn't, everyone goes home
Kristy Turcio Porter February 16, 2014 at 11:35 AM
Ah, yes, the town hires a company to do some of the snow removal. The HS for instance. I know this, because I'm married to one. Thank you!
Kristy Turcio Porter February 16, 2014 at 11:39 AM
As many others here have said, it's all about the money, nothing to do with the quality of the work our public works department does. This is how, Maturo can say he has saved the town money.
Jay Carr February 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM
Well it seems to me that all comments thus far agree that the current way of doing things isn't working. Does everyone agree that OUR tax dollars need to be used NOW and in the future to clean up the snow correctly? If so , comment as such and then our Mayor should immediately send our plow opperators out to work. Our government is supposed to work for us not the other way around.
Kristy Turcio Porter February 16, 2014 at 12:00 PM
Agreed, Jay!
Teresa Sirico February 16, 2014 at 12:08 PM
My office is in East Haven and I live in Milford. They have done a great job in East Haven. You should see Milford. We need patience with the plowing. The snowfall has been merciless. If you have something to say, please do not hide behind the no name brand.
Liz Vigliotti February 16, 2014 at 12:17 PM
It has nothing to do with the plow drivers and no one said its them it's the ma who calls the shots and when snow piles at the corner of Tuttle school are in the middle of the road so bus drivers are forced into oncoming traffic and driver over 3ft snow piles to make corners there is a problem and when the mayor is telling residents on dead end streets that there not necAssary roads he is saying the children on that street don't matter and neither does the elderly on that road. Again we had to shovel a path from the end of our sidewalk out to He middle of the road so my kids can get on the sidewalk without getting hurt
Regina Porto February 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM
The streets in East Haven are in bad condition, there's no debate! The homeowners go crazy shoveling their walks because it's the law and it's the right thing to do so that pedestrians can walk safely. Then the plows come along (not the drivers fault) and make mountains at the crosswalks. The pedestrians have no choice but to turn around until they get to a spot where they can get out into the street and then walk in the street. Very dangerous for the pedestrian and drivers alike. There should be some sort of provisions made to clear the mountains of snow at intersections, minimally. Plus, it would be great to have both sides of the street plowed instead of just one. I live in the center and our streets are not in good shape. In some cases you can't even see over the mountains at intesections (which have now turned to ice.) I don't believe we can't solve this issue.
Peter T. Cianelli February 16, 2014 at 01:13 PM
WHINING PEOPLE.....When you whine your problems don’t get solved because you are spending all your time whining instead of fixing. So the next time you are upset and are about to whine, do the following: 1.Take all the IF’s and BUTs out of your head. It doesn’t matter if Trixie or Biff had a better outcome; this is you we are talking about and not them. 2.Think about the situation and why it happened the way it did. 3.If another party was involved, think about the situation from their perspective. If another party was not involved, think about the situation from a neutral perspective (I know this is hard, but you can do it). 4.List out all the possible ways you can potentially change the situation to be favorable for you. 5.Try and fix the situation using one of the ways you listed out. If things go your way, that’s great. If things don’t go your way or if the situation can’t be changed, then learn from it and move on. Life is not perfect and we all whine about things (even me), but you’re more likely to succeed if you think about things from a logical perspective instead of an emotional whiny perspective. PS: Hopefully it didn’t sound like I was whining about people whining.
Paula Martino-Stranz February 16, 2014 at 01:42 PM
Traveling through many shoreline towns and seeing their snow messes I am thankful and appreciative for the Town of East Haven Public works crews. We have the Best plowed roads and I'm sure any emergency vehicles would have no problem reaching someone if needed
neilpmd February 16, 2014 at 03:02 PM
I completely agree that East Haven roads are not safely plowed storm after storm. Every morning I drive to work in western CT and drive through a half dozen towns that are much better plowed than East Haven. In fact I can tell I've passed into New Haven because the roads and streets are immediately 100% better. The only town that is as poorly done as East Haven is Waterbury. What is even more amazing to me is reading that some East Haven residents think everything is OK! That is clearly the biggest problem about living in this town.
Brenda Newport DeGray February 16, 2014 at 04:25 PM
I leave on Stevens street the plow is no where close tocurb more like 3 ft out ask the poor mail man we shovel near it but he can not drive to each one. The town side walks in this area are not done by the town. The other day Coe was a thick sheet of ice until you got to Hemming way a state ft then it was fine. The postman said it was very clear at silversands south the roads are aweful you can only get one car by and many people have no driveways down here .... I do so that is not my point. I have a commuting student to gateway he has class at 7:30 am . The roads are never plowed sanded etc until he gets toward the Center ..... The job is not getting done
bryan eagan February 16, 2014 at 04:44 PM
It must be each individual driver. It seems to be the same guy doing my street in foxon and it's always done well and sand on the hilly parts. You can only push the snow so far to the curb before it creeps into the street and narrows it. Next step is pay loaders clearing the curbs, for every person that says spend the money another will freak out that were overspending.ive seen neighbors get mad at the plows for pushing the snow to far in the yard so no matter what someone will be upset. Get your shovel and do what you gotta do, it will al be a memory soon and we can cry again next year.
Dominic Cretella February 16, 2014 at 04:52 PM
I posted a very similar post just about a week ago. Please everyone here attend the march town council meeting . This administration has to be told how the residents feel! It is very clear that the safety of residents as well as school children have a price tag according to this administration! You the people of our town need to speak out and be heard. The public works staff do a great job clearing the roads but they need to be allowed to work and do their job . Get involved and be heard !!!
deborah tarnawa February 16, 2014 at 05:47 PM
people of east haven I have family that plow and work endless hours for eh but our mayor is to blame, he doesn't put trucks on the roads when we really need them , start pointing yr fingers at him....its all about money not safety. I mist say they really do their best!
Citizen X February 16, 2014 at 05:52 PM
The Board of education has nothing to do with the snow removal on town roads. We are talking about the condition of our streets of which the public works department is responsible for and maybe the Boe uses subcontractors for snow plowing at the schools but the Public Works Dept. Does not use them for the town roads. Of this I am 100% positive. Thank you!
Andrea February 19, 2014 at 09:49 AM
I have to agree that EH roads are bad. I live at the top of Foxon Hill Rd. And when I am driving home and it has snowed the New Haven part of the road is good, then I get near the welcome to East Haven sign and BAM-snow filled road. How is it the New Haven can be plowed and East Haven side not? And this is a busy road.
Jay Carr April 16, 2014 at 12:57 PM
AND FYI PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO HELP FIX THE ISSUE. MY STREET ENDS UP PLOWING ITSELF OUT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE UNLESS I CALL AND COMPLAIN OUR ROAD DOESNT GET PLOWED.

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