Coe Ave & Short Beach Intersection Flooding

The busy intersection was temporarily closed to traffic Friday after the day's heavy rains led to a flash flood in the area.

Update at 4:35 p.m.

The Coe Avenue and Short Beach Road intersection has been reopened to traffic after Friday's heavy rains led to a flash flood and temporary closure of the busy roadways.

The flash flood warning for East Haven and the rest of New Haven County has now expired.

The chance for scattered thunderstorms and rain showers continues into the overnight hours.

Tomorrow's weather expected to be overcast and foggy in the morning, and then partly cloudy the rest of the afternoon with a high of 68 degrees.

Original Story (Posted at 2:45 p.m.)

The heavy rains have taken their toll on East Haven, with flash flooding closing the busy intersection of Coe Avenue and Short Beach Road this afternoon.

East Haven Fire Department and East Haven Police officials are on the scene. And traffic is now being re-routed around the area until the waters have an opportunity to recede.

Flooding is nothing new for the intersection. as the area frequently floods during periods of heavy rains. Most recently, after a severe storm ripped through the town on Aug. 10.

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Julie Weisberg (Editor) September 28, 2012 at 07:11 PM
Everyone: The flash flood warning for the area is in effect until 4:15 p.m. So still be careful driving about the lower-lying areas of town. And we could also see some strong storms later on tonight. So although the rain has let up a bit for now, we're not quite out of the weather woods yet!
Jackie Sargent September 28, 2012 at 08:39 PM
I wish they could do something to fix this area.
Jacobo Arnez September 28, 2012 at 08:41 PM
The flooding in this area has been happening since the democratic town chairman was a small boy, coincidence, I, haha don't think so!
Jackie Sargent September 28, 2012 at 08:42 PM
I've lived in the area for 40 years. It's always been this way. Why don't they do something about it?
melinda tillie September 28, 2012 at 11:25 PM
I was born and brought up in East Haven as was my family. It has always been bad around this area. Icheck the Patch daily and when I see those storm crank up believe me I know what it is like. They should do something as the Farm River will soon claim SBRoad..There are too many har working folks that have always lived in the area,that whenever you get a hard rain its a flood again. Someone should get a petition started so this can be on the Ballet next time around.
tkp September 29, 2012 at 12:47 AM
When this section of road was built they had no idea what the high tide line would do. And on even sunny days when we have a full moon high tide the road floods.This is a situation were what little money we have to spend comes into play.Should we spend millions to have this section of road and drainage system totally redone to stop the flooding or save it for other causes and just suck it up. I go for the latter
Ann Della Camera September 29, 2012 at 04:22 AM
Jackie I have lived here for 38 years and your right it has always been this way. I got caught out in the downpour today and was on Main street that was also becoming a river. I turned to come back home only to find that once again I had to go through Branford and Alps road to get there. There was some work done there about 8 years back to I thought solve the problem, seems to me they made it worst. Something has to be done with this situation. I am sure people living on and in side streets of Short Beach Road are really tired of wasting gas having to go through Branford to get to East Haven center. I believe in where there is a problem there is a cure. Perhaps mucking out that farm river cross over canal and give it some depth might help. Its also hurting the businesses that occupy the corners there. I am not going out in another downpour that is for sure.
Ann Della Camera September 29, 2012 at 04:25 AM
tkp, I don't agree that only high tide is the cause, I think there is a lot of wetlands filled in around the area there. Perhaps DEP and the state should take a better look at some properties there. Watershed is a necessary thing that we need in a lot of area's here and a lot of them are being abused.
Richard Poulton September 29, 2012 at 01:14 PM
Ann, I believe the major issue here is the tide. We could have had this same storm at a low tide and water would have pooled for awhile but would have had a place to drain. The storm water drainage systems in this area goes into the Farm River tributary system to the east and I believe also to the creek marsh area to the west behind Proto Drive. When they fill, storm water has no place to go when tide is high or filling. Being state roads (Hemingway & Short Beach), we as a town have no control over correcting this. I am sure every town engineer & administration has looked at this problem, questioned the state about correcting, etc, etc.. I think the members on the TC that are on the PW sub-commitee should get involved and hopefully force the issue with our elected officials in Hartford. The three roads connecting must be raised, thus allowing the drainage system to be elevated so high tide water doesn't back up into the system. I have seen flooding caused by extremely high tides alone. There is no easy fix and it will not be cheap. Maybe the TC can have the TE give advise to them as well as to the public as to how to correct. You will be amazed at what this would involve.
Peter T. Cianelli September 29, 2012 at 04:41 PM
This has always been a major problem..... What is most interesting is that 100 feet up Coe Ave next to Diamond Boats is where the previous Administration spent 100's of thousands of our taxpayers dollars for a new Fire Station that would never be able to support the building... or fire equipment.... because of the wetlands & flooding problems. We never found out who made that deal ..... just saying...
Richard Poulton September 29, 2012 at 07:35 PM
A little off story line but iit s somewhat related to issue at hand. Pete raised an interesting point. In doing a little "on-line" research I found this. In a Patch story dated 11/17/2010, the follow was found. Story was about a new fire headquarters, and Asst. Chief Licata advised that everyone in town hall knows one is needed, but there were no funds, assuming he meant within the budget. Paul Hongo, remember him, says there is no money to build and doesn't want to "bond the 5 million estainated price tag". Gee, I guess its Ok now to bond 30/50 million for the high school. Sorry, back on track. Sometime in 2009 Federal grant money was available to fire departments across the country for such new construction, but trick was municipality must own the land prior, so thus land was purchased. Guess what, grant fell through, to much competition. But we own a nice piece of property that is no longer brininging in tax revenue.
Nick Palladino September 29, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Good point Richard, but can someone explain why town bought the property that is now the splash pad.
Sam Giglio September 29, 2012 at 09:13 PM
You can always count on Mr Cianelli for bringing things up that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. So here is my turn. When Mayor Muturo was in Office the first time around how much did his Administration pay for the old Candle by the Sea property? with the grand allusion of building a Conterence Center untill the folks said no. At least now its a park for everyone in Town, Plannned and built by Demorcarts, Just like the new Firehouse would have been with the right planning and fooding issues addressed. Yes this is a bad area thats why you see the new Dunken Donuts at least 9 to 10 feet above the road level, Planning it takes planning. Lets hope it gets fixed one day.
Janet A Cianelli September 29, 2012 at 09:56 PM
I am a lifelong resident of this area and can tell you that it never flooded out like it does now when there where nobuildings such as Diamond auto , Rite Aide and the buildings behind the strip mall that was the Pied Pipers! It was over built for the flood zone and the water has no where to go! I'm sure if an engineer came in he/she would be able to straighten this mess out! I just don't ever remember it being this bad or a problrm when I was younger!
Peter T. Cianelli September 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Sammy Boy..(Captian Blood ?). seeing that you always have to chime in LOL) .... please answer my question.. Who was responsible for purchasing the building & land( hundred's of thousands of dollars) for that.... NEW FD that never happened... that was within 100 feet of the flooding area... that happens 10 times a year on Coe Ave & Short Beach Rd,? Next... what Democratic Administration (APoral'S) alllowed the property next to Dunken Donuts to be developed ( Storage Units ) without addressing the SAME flooding concerns ???
Nick Palladino September 29, 2012 at 10:41 PM
How about we all stop pointing fingers at each other and just try to fix the problems. I think most of us know that making fast money was always one of the main reasons things happened the way they did. OK that was then and times were what they were. IT IS ALL OVER NOW. Lets try to work together and make this a better town. If we just keep fighting nothing will get done. Now that the Police Dept. is going in the right direction we can work on the other problems. There are a lot of good people on both sides of the fence that can work together and do great things. Why don't we give it a try. Too many young people are moving out of East Haven because of the BS that goes on. The first thing we should do is make sure people use their REAL names on this site.
tkp September 30, 2012 at 03:38 AM
April Capone
tkp September 30, 2012 at 03:46 AM
Thats what I said Rich,it is going to cost a fortune. If it flooded on a daily basis issues would have to be taken ASAP.But for now when it floods lets just deal with it and get your coffee on Main St.
Ann Della Camera September 30, 2012 at 04:49 AM
Richard, I am sure you are right, however the problem is much worst then it ever was. The last ten years it has been a real bad situation. I am sure that something can be done before it gets to the point that the Deil Floods. like it almost did during hurricane Irene. I have been here 38 years and never have I seen it flood so high and so often. I still think DEP should check some of the properties to see if wetlands have been invaded. Like where they park the school buses, I worked there and the land in back was wetlands and not it goes further back then it did 10 years ago when I worked in the front office of a company. I could be wrong but I really think the wetlands in back of those places has been filled in to some degree. The problem has to be solved, I know I am tired of wasting gas to go to Branford to get home.
Ann Della Camera September 30, 2012 at 04:51 AM
HUMMM Peter, that is very interesting ,,, makes me wonder now too.
Ann Della Camera September 30, 2012 at 04:54 AM
Sam not its a park with water running into Long Island Sound, its nice for the kids but it should have had recycled water. I would hate to see that water bill. So much for Democratic ideas huh!!!!
Ann Della Camera September 30, 2012 at 04:54 AM
Janet I so agree with you and it floods a lot more often too.
Ann Della Camera September 30, 2012 at 04:57 AM
Nick, I do agree with you, many are all talk and no action. No one has a positive idea in here. I would love to see the cowards use their real names too.
Flowers September 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM
There have been many projects in this are which were suppose to fix this problem but apparently it is a bigger problem than anticipated. Also note the fetid smell in that area frequently. Could be from the swamp or a sewer problem. Fact is it floods and stinks and there must be a fix.
Richard Poulton September 30, 2012 at 01:59 PM
There are so many causing factors to this problem. To respond to Janet's comment about past buildings or the prior lack of them, behind Pied Pipers was the original EH Building Supply Co. lumber yard, where Rite Aid is was a gas station/body shop (Elm City brand) A&B Auto Body, where DD is was the cafe Crossroads, later Pat's Pardee. One cause of the flooding is the shrinkage of the tidal flow creeks that take the storm water. Think of it as carotid arteries of these tidal creek. Over time, marches file in. With this there is no place for water to go during high tide and storms. In 2008 or just prior to that time a plan was approved to re-open the "creek" to the west of Coe Ave. using a special machine, thus allowing for not only better drainage of storm water but to re-establish a place for tidal flow to go. But a major causing factor is what is called "impervious surfaces", aka asphault, causing run-off of storm water instead of being absorbed into the ground. The more impervious surfaces in an area causes more storm water that needs to go somewhere. Combine this with the natural filing of tidal creeks and drainage pipes no longer at a higher elevation and discharge what do we get, flooding. And there is no quick fix.
Ann Della Camera October 01, 2012 at 02:31 AM
Richard , again I agree, I know all of that was there. but Diamond was not there, the new East Haven Builders was not there,Dunkin Donuts was not there, and they raised the ground so we now get more run off. Edals left being tired of flooding. Now we want to make it worst by putting a storage area in there. I hope the Town is going to have shuttle boats for cars to get through. This problem has really grown through the years, and I still think widening the canal there and mucking it out could help. I always respect what you say Richard, I know you do your research well.


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